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Compilation construction time is nearly upon us. Menlo Park has commissioned a three-disc retrospective TLASILA box for 2007. What haven't you heard?

1991

My 'Limp' Went Husserl on Me
Spatters of a Royal Sperm

1992-4

30-minuten männercreme

1994

Prostitution Heute!
"Helen Butte" vs. Masonna Pussy Badsmell

1995

Vedder Vedder Bedwetter
An Interview with the Mitchell Brothers

1996

Commmiinnggg! and Practis'd the Black Art*

1997

Tonal Harmony
Sleep
Les Tricoteuses*

1998

Where a Horse Has Been Standing and Where You Belong
Peter Criss vs. Peter Christopherson
Amour Fou on the Edge of Misogyny

1998-2000

Tony Conrad, Fat-Ass

2002

The Wigmaker in Eighteenth Century Williamsburg

2004

God and Country Rally!

2006

Horóscopo: Sanatorio de Molière
Noon and Eternity

2007

Piper's Son (TLASILA/Kevin Drumm)*

(*Savage Land will be issuing Les Tricoteuses, Commiinnggg!, and Piper's Son in 2007...)

Comments

Bruno B said…
Besides the upcoming Savage Land ones, I haven't heard these:
My 'Limp' Went Husserl on Me
Spatters of a Royal Sperm
Prostitution Heute!
Sleep
Peter Criss vs. Peter Christopherson
Amour Fou on the Edge of Misogyny
Tony Conrad, Fat-Ass

I'm particularly curious about the last three. And what's Sleep?
ommyth said…
Hi BB,

Sleep was a precursor to the original God and Country Rally!. PC vs. PC was our collaboration with UK noise-collage freaks KF36; Kasra (from KF) now runs a d+b label in London. Amour Fou was Billy Taylor's warped techno/d+b/trash remix of leftover vocal dub versions drawn from Wigmaker. Billy was an alumnus of the oft-wonderful Melted Men. TC, FA was to have been the follow-up to Wig, but was abandoned in 2000. It's pretty fugged-up; only 35 minutes were recorded... After the TLASILA clone flare-up and the founding of Ohne I didn't feel the urge to revisit the album...

Hope this helps, Bruno.

Best,

Tom
Bruno B said…
I'd value hearing any and all of these. But hopefully there'll be some more answers to this post; what I want to hear may not be what everyone else wants!
Did things progress on the Ohne "composite suite" you mentioned a while back?
ommyth said…
The Ohne destructo-mix is floundering, half-finished, in one of my external hard drives. I'll get to it later in '06 or '07. Juggling so many projects at the moment...

The request thread was started just to get a sense of what TLASILA enthusiasts hadn't heard, at least from the extant discography (including works abandoned or finished, but unreleased). There's thousands of tapes, so filling three discs won't be too difficult. Filling them with material that pleases everyone... Holy fuck, that's always been a problem for archivists. (The three-disc Destroy All Monsters retrospective on Ecstatic Peace/Father Yod arguably did it best...)

Cheers,

Tom
Manu said…
CD1: Peach of Immortality compendium
(including the totality of the Jehovah/REM LP)
CD2: TLASILA non-LP tracks (incl. Prostitution Heute and all the 7"s)
+ Tony Conrad, Fat Ass
CD3: Peter Criss + Amour Fou

that would be the ideal collection for me.
ommyth said…
Thanks for the suggestions, Manu! Your counsel is much appreciated.

The long-proposed Peach of Immortality compilation will remain a discrete entity - there's so much material, and so few people know of it, We recorded more than 15 albums, over 150 live sets, almost every rehearsal... A one-disc compendium wouldn't work. Three, maybe. We've been trying to sort this out for a long time. Although Peach morphed into TLASILA, the former is as distinct from the latter as ball bearings are to avocados... Add Boat Of to the mix, and you've got an even greater curatorial challenge!

As for Heute, the other singles, and assorted compilation tracks, that's a definite possibility. Extracts from Tony Conrad, Fat-Ass, Amour Fou, and PC v PC are also slated for inclusion...

We've been somewhat reluctant to bring these collections to fruition - the time requirements alone serve to give us pause...

Thanks again, Manu!

Ciao,

TS
tandoorie posse said…
The unreleased album of Miss High Heels!!!
and on the last issue of bananafish, Spencer Yeh evokes a collaboration with you, is this going to happen?
all the best,
Nicolas.
Bruno B said…
tandoorie posse brings up some good queries... the unreleased MHH album would be very interesting to hear, and did anything happen with Mr. Burning Star Core?
ommyth said…
Hello Tandoorie, Bruno...

Sorry for the late replies - we've been rehearsing and recording for the forthcoming Black Meat tour of the East Coast. Lots of cool sounds already committed to disc...

Blossoming Noise will be releasing the Miss High Heel album in 2007. (Graham is looking over my shoulder, as a matter of fact, even as I type.) Rather than fall prey to the urge of releasing a double disc of the 2,877-odd hours of mixes I recorded in Chicago, we've decided to issue one, absolutely kiiiiiiiick-arse(-lickin') set. Think you'll approve.

Re Spencer: I totally want to do an album with him someday, but our paths really haven't converged of late. I enjoy mail collabs a lot, but I'd prefer to work with BSC/SY in real time. Maybe soon? Maybe never? Only the fates know, and their lips are usually sealed.

Hope you're both well.

Best,

Tom
Matt Mitchell said…
I would second Bruno B and Manu's requests. I also missed out on Vedder...I think you may have had it for download a while back but I got to it too late. I did just order Interview with the Mitchell Brothers [along w/ Horoscopo] from Blossoming Noise, so that's covered for me.

Anyway, that's that. Very excited for the Kevin Drumm collab., I'm also a huge fan of his.

Best,

Matt Mitchell
eddie keen said…
What haven't I heard ?

A nano-second that didn't thrill and motivate ... Honestly.
I read the interview in Your Flesh, by chance I had recently picked up the menlo park 7", ( the one with the sample from my 2nd favourite pearl jam song ever, not really ) intrigued yet daunted by the vast discography, I then found the Tonal harmony cdep in Glasgow Scotland, today I see it still carries the price tag saying - second hand £ 0.10 . Utterly hooked.

From then on every other item collected piecemeal, very slowly, via internet mail order, including :
CD
30 minuten mannercreme, helen bute, vedder vedder bedwetter, int with mitchell bros., P.C vs P.C., the wigmaker, ( a few shops listing on gemm.com say they have this in stock, if anyone's interested) god and country rally and horoscopo (which is superb, whetting my appetite for noon and eternity.)
7"
split with ceramic hobs, new songs with drug and pornographic themes.
Cassettes
Vixens of the mortal ring, born in east la - from ebay, in a single lot which duplicated two of the three 7"s, the guy included a bonus tape by KF36.
Comps
killing ha muerto lp
easter puberty amplifiers 7"
tarot or aorta cd
( also from smackshire, the collaboration with sightings ist wunderbar.
Assisted by tlasila, former electric eel Brian Macmahon's cd 17 volts is also a great record. )

So, apart from the stuff earmarked by savage land, I need the amour fou cd-r on gods of tundra, tony conrad fat-ass, and, where a horse has been standing and where you belong. The latter being particularly appealing both as a tie in with the wigmaker and because I thought I would have been able to unearth it before now. On that note the chocolate monk cassette with live versions from wigmaker is again a much sought after release.
The other cassettes on LISP, Betley and c monk are desirable because I'm greedy.

the unreleased stuff from the end of peach of immortality and the nascent tlasila compiled with the other 7"s and comp tracks would please a lot of people I'm sure.

currently listening to Bill Bisset's awake in the red desert private press 60s lp downloaded from a blog. Oh yeah, two words : limbo district. Any chance of hearing them, none of the punk era blogs look remotely like sharing sounds by this band.

thanks,
ed.
ommyth said…
Hello Ed,

"£0.10" seems about right! ;)

No, thanks so much for your very generous appraisal. Much obliged.

Regarding your Herculean task: Wow. I'm flummoxed. And I thought Bruno B had nearly everything!

Amour Fou might conceivably be repressed in-house by TLASILA at some point. If not, an excerpt will doubtless appear on the compilation. Tony Conrad, Fat-Ass will most likely remain unfinished, alas. I worked on it with demonic ardor, but when the fever broke, I lost interest. Excerpts will emerge... Where a Horse is, in retrospect, somewhat monomaniacal in tone, but for 1998 it strikes its share of agreeably dissonant chords. It's still available, y'know. Original pressings of it and mannercreme are extant, albeit in very limited quantities. Why? I never bothered advertising the bloody things, at least beyond their initial release dates. They dribble out of HQ at their own speed...

As for the cassettes, I've lost track of the Choc Monk masters, although I know I have them around here somewhere. Was there accompanying artwork? I honestly have no recollection... I do have one copy each of the EF, Betley, and Spite cassette comps, but I'm loathe to duplicate them, as the original master tapes would sound infinitely better than muffled, third-gen versions.

As for the Menlo comp., I've only the most vague idea of where to begin. The May 1990 demos, perhaps? Then, a trip through the pre-mannercreme material, including all or most of Spatters... By 1994 we were performing live constantly - from the live mixes alone we could release a mind-frying performance disc. There are mountains of tapes - DATS, ADATS, cassettes, reels... The thought of surrendering myself to the archive fills me with blood-curdling dread!

Mr. Keen, that's where we stand today - frozen at the cusp.

Hope all is well.

Cheers,

Tom

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What haven't I heard ?

A nano-second that didn't thrill and motivate ... Honestly.
I read the interview in Your Flesh, by chance I had recently picked up the menlo park 7", ( the one with the sample from my 2nd favourite pearl jam song ever, not really ) intrigued yet daunted by the vast discography, I then found the Tonal harmony cdep in Glasgow Scotland, today I see it still carries the price tag saying - second hand £ 0.10 . Utterly hooked.

From then on every other item collected piecemeal, very slowly, via internet mail order, including :
CD
30 minuten mannercreme, helen bute, vedder vedder bedwetter, int with mitchell bros., P.C vs P.C., the wigmaker, ( a few shops listing on gemm.com say they have this in stock, if anyone's interested) god and country rally and horoscopo (which is superb, whetting my appetite for noon and eternity.)
7"
split with ceramic hobs, new songs with drug and pornographic themes.
Cassettes
Vixens of the mortal ring, born in east la - from ebay, in a single lot which duplicated two of the three 7"s, the guy included a bonus tape by KF36.
Comps
killing ha muerto lp
easter puberty amplifiers 7"
tarot or aorta cd
( also from smackshire, the collaboration with sightings ist wunderbar.
Assisted by tlasila, former electric eel Brian Macmahon's cd 17 volts is also a great record. )

So, apart from the stuff earmarked by savage land, I need the amour fou cd-r on gods of tundra, tony conrad fat-ass, and, where a horse has been standing and where you belong. The latter being particularly appealing both as a tie in with the wigmaker and because I thought I would have been able to unearth it before now. On that note the chocolate monk cassette with live versions from wigmaker is again a much sought after release.
The other cassettes on LISP, Betley and c monk are desirable because I'm greedy.

the unreleased stuff from the end of peach of immortality and the nascent tlasila compiled with the other 7"s and comp tracks would please a lot of people I'm sure.

currently listening to Bill Bisset's awake in the red desert private press 60s lp downloaded from a blog. Oh yeah, two words : limbo district. Any chance of hearing them, none of the punk era blogs look remotely like sharing sounds by this band.

thanks,
ed.
Bruno B said…
I can't speak for the TLASILA/POI split Chocolate Monk tape, but I have "Songs from the Wigmaker live" and it did have artwork, b&w photocopied stuff but it was there nonetheless. There was a scribbled tracklist and the same picture of you as inside the "Helen Butte..." booklet (but, like I said, black & white and photocopied.)
ommyth said…
Hmmmmm... You're quite right, Bruno. The memory evaded recollection, but now I remember the Choc Monk package. Dylan must have pieced it together from my hand-written notes... Can't recall a bloody thing about the artwork which acompanied TLASILA/POI split, however. I put the comp together at Sync Studios in Miami, on the (probably long-since replaced) 48-track board. It's always struck me as odd that TLASILA detractors and at-large cranks have alluded to a certain low-fi essence permeating our efforts, but nearly everything we've ever done has been recorded on exasperatingly high-end gear... Either the madness has been sufficiently insistent to burn through the clarity, or I was a total fucking incompetent. (Perhaps a mixture of both would be closest to the truth!)

TS

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